Eric… ‘weird’ is relative, homosexuality itself is weird because it’s abnormal, as in, the majority of people are heterosexual, and homosexual is what, 10-20% or something? Either way, don’t use ‘weird’ like it’s something negative, it’s only a variation.

I have to admit… I did manage to get on the first date 2/3 times so difficulties vary on the type of girl it is and what’s drawing you to each other. You can get a kiss earlier when it’s about both parties being horny and stuff, but things based on that don’t always turn out so well. You might decide not to procede because you feel guilty about not having any sort of real connection.

I think it’s better to go slow, even if you have trouble kissing to begin with, if you’re really connecting on other means then it can end up being better in the long run. Just as long as you keep it romantic and don’t get TOO casual or else the magic is lost and it’s that ‘friendzone’ thing people complain about (though I don’t think that’s permanent…) I like anon’s idea with the tickling.